<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Romney in OKC</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?feed=rss2&#038;p=798" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:27:03 -0800</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12581</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12581</guid>
		<description>Well stated, sir. I couldn&#039;t agree more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated, sir. I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: davidbmc</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12580</link>
		<dc:creator>davidbmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12580</guid>
		<description>Thats funny Sarah because as a Christian, that is exactly what I say all the time. the Mormon claims are outrageous but not much more outrageous than &quot;orthodox&quot; Christian claims.  The difference lies in reasonable evidence for those claims, IMHO.

I am a Christian but i would have no problem voting for a satan worshiper if they had the qualities and policies I look for in a leader. (My christian friends are officially freaking out now.)

The only time I think a candidates religious views should be a part of the debate are:
1) when THEY make it part of the debate first, and 
2) when their religious beliefs make me question their reasoning skills.

For example, if Candidate Joe says he worships the Mogo Alien because it appears to him and only him every night, I might decide to make his religious beliefs part of my decision making process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats funny Sarah because as a Christian, that is exactly what I say all the time. the Mormon claims are outrageous but not much more outrageous than &#8220;orthodox&#8221; Christian claims.  The difference lies in reasonable evidence for those claims, IMHO.</p>
<p>I am a Christian but i would have no problem voting for a satan worshiper if they had the qualities and policies I look for in a leader. (My christian friends are officially freaking out now.)</p>
<p>The only time I think a candidates religious views should be a part of the debate are:<br />
1) when THEY make it part of the debate first, and<br />
2) when their religious beliefs make me question their reasoning skills.</p>
<p>For example, if Candidate Joe says he worships the Mogo Alien because it appears to him and only him every night, I might decide to make his religious beliefs part of my decision making process.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12578</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12578</guid>
		<description>I agree. Some of the things Mormons believe are definitely bizarre. But, I guess that from my &quot;outside looking in&quot; perspective, it doesn&#039;t seem that much more bizarre than believing in virgin births and resurrections. Sometimes Christianity (or any religion, for that matter, I&#039;m not solely picking on Christianity) seems like a cult...just with a longer history and more members. 

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Some of the things Mormons believe are definitely bizarre. But, I guess that from my &#8220;outside looking in&#8221; perspective, it doesn&#8217;t seem that much more bizarre than believing in virgin births and resurrections. Sometimes Christianity (or any religion, for that matter, I&#8217;m not solely picking on Christianity) seems like a cult&#8230;just with a longer history and more members.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12577</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12577</guid>
		<description>I think the predominant Protestant Christian view is that Mormonism is a cult and not Christian. I took a class in college from the head of the religion department and this professor was very liberal and respectful of all religions, but even he didn&#039;t take Mormonism seriously. I don&#039;t know enough about it to really know what I think, but that professor&#039;s opinion is pretty significant to me. 
You&#039;re probably right about voters voting for someone who is also a member of the &quot;club&quot;, but even if a candidate had the same views as you, would you vote for him if he adamantly believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy? That may be silly, but there are lot of people who view Mormonism in the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the predominant Protestant Christian view is that Mormonism is a cult and not Christian. I took a class in college from the head of the religion department and this professor was very liberal and respectful of all religions, but even he didn&#8217;t take Mormonism seriously. I don&#8217;t know enough about it to really know what I think, but that professor&#8217;s opinion is pretty significant to me.<br />
You&#8217;re probably right about voters voting for someone who is also a member of the &#8220;club&#8221;, but even if a candidate had the same views as you, would you vote for him if he adamantly believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy? That may be silly, but there are lot of people who view Mormonism in the same way.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12576</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12576</guid>
		<description>You know, I find the whole Mormon controversy very puzzling...is it really that big of a deal that he&#039;s Mormon? I mean, you guys all believe in God...isn&#039;t that really all that matters? 

Even though I&#039;m certainly no Romney supporter, I think a candidate&#039;s religious beliefs should be completely irrelevant to his or her ability to be a good President. Now, all the religious folks out there are probably going to start screaming about how it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; important, because a person&#039;s morals influence their judgment (a friend of mine just said this to me yesterday, as a matter of fact). However, I have to strongly disagree. There are people with strong principles, good character and sound judgment who hail from &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; religious persuasions - be they Hindu, Catholic, Southern Baptist, Mormon or even Atheist. Similarly, there are plenty of &quot;people of faith&quot; who would make absolutely lousy Presidents. 

I don&#039;t understand why what someone believes (or doesn&#039;t believe) affects their ability to serve this country. There is no religion or denomination with a monopoly on wanting to do the right thing by our fellow citizens. Maybe we all have different ideas on how best to do the right thing, but &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; should be the issue, &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; where, and how frequently, someone attends church (or if they even go to church, for that matter). What an odd litmus test. Honestly, it kind of seems like the only reason a candidate&#039;s particular religious beliefs are an issue is so voters can determine if he or she is part of the &quot;club.&quot;

That&#039;s just how it seems to me, at least. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I find the whole Mormon controversy very puzzling&#8230;is it really that big of a deal that he&#8217;s Mormon? I mean, you guys all believe in God&#8230;isn&#8217;t that really all that matters? </p>
<p>Even though I&#8217;m certainly no Romney supporter, I think a candidate&#8217;s religious beliefs should be completely irrelevant to his or her ability to be a good President. Now, all the religious folks out there are probably going to start screaming about how it <em>is</em> important, because a person&#8217;s morals influence their judgment (a friend of mine just said this to me yesterday, as a matter of fact). However, I have to strongly disagree. There are people with strong principles, good character and sound judgment who hail from <em>all</em> religious persuasions &#8211; be they Hindu, Catholic, Southern Baptist, Mormon or even Atheist. Similarly, there are plenty of &#8220;people of faith&#8221; who would make absolutely lousy Presidents. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why what someone believes (or doesn&#8217;t believe) affects their ability to serve this country. There is no religion or denomination with a monopoly on wanting to do the right thing by our fellow citizens. Maybe we all have different ideas on how best to do the right thing, but <em>that</em> should be the issue, <em>not</em> where, and how frequently, someone attends church (or if they even go to church, for that matter). What an odd litmus test. Honestly, it kind of seems like the only reason a candidate&#8217;s particular religious beliefs are an issue is so voters can determine if he or she is part of the &#8220;club.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just how it seems to me, at least.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12574</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12574</guid>
		<description>I couldn&#039;t get my best friend, the Blackblogger, to go out to pester Mormon Mitt about his LDS convictions.  Nor could I go.  But maybe that&#039;s so four months ago too.  I guess he&#039;s already had a lot of poop thrown his way from that direction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t get my best friend, the Blackblogger, to go out to pester Mormon Mitt about his LDS convictions.  Nor could I go.  But maybe that&#8217;s so four months ago too.  I guess he&#8217;s already had a lot of poop thrown his way from that direction&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: davidbmc</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12571</link>
		<dc:creator>davidbmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12571</guid>
		<description>&quot;How is it that I can loathe yet love politics so much, at the same time?&quot;

My feelings exactly. I used to love to talk about politics. While I still care passionately, I just dont want to talk about it anymore. everyone has drawn their lines, chosen sides, and call the other side evil. Both sides do it and it disgusts me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How is it that I can loathe yet love politics so much, at the same time?&#8221;</p>
<p>My feelings exactly. I used to love to talk about politics. While I still care passionately, I just dont want to talk about it anymore. everyone has drawn their lines, chosen sides, and call the other side evil. Both sides do it and it disgusts me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12555</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12555</guid>
		<description>Thanks for doing the legwork I was too lazy to do! 

What so many don&#039;t seem to realize is that criticizing national security and foreign policies &lt;em&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; mean that you want America to be annihilated by terrorists. I&#039;m getting really tired of that implication, and I&#039;m also getting tired of the whole black/white world outlook so prevalent in politics today (i.e. if you don&#039;t agree with my point of view, then you are my sworn enemy and want the terrorists to win). Ironic that by taking Edwards&#039;s comments out of context, Romney did exactly what Edwards was griping about.

Man, oh man...this is going to be a long 18 months. How is it that I can loathe yet love politics so much, at the same time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for doing the legwork I was too lazy to do! </p>
<p>What so many don&#8217;t seem to realize is that criticizing national security and foreign policies <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> mean that you want America to be annihilated by terrorists. I&#8217;m getting really tired of that implication, and I&#8217;m also getting tired of the whole black/white world outlook so prevalent in politics today (i.e. if you don&#8217;t agree with my point of view, then you are my sworn enemy and want the terrorists to win). Ironic that by taking Edwards&#8217;s comments out of context, Romney did exactly what Edwards was griping about.</p>
<p>Man, oh man&#8230;this is going to be a long 18 months. How is it that I can loathe yet love politics so much, at the same time?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: davidbmc</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12525</link>
		<dc:creator>davidbmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12525</guid>
		<description>I am not saying these comments are either good or bad. Just letting you know what Romney is refering to.

Here is the speech and comment by Edwards. 
http://johnedwards.com/news/speeches/20070523-cfr/

Pertinent part:
The war on terror is a slogan designed only for politics, not a strategy to make America safe. It&#039;s a bumper sticker, not a plan. It has damaged our alliances and weakened our standing in the world. As a political &quot;frame,&quot; it&#039;s been used to justify everything from the Iraq War to Guantanamo to illegal spying on the American people. It&#039;s even been used by this White House as a partisan weapon to bludgeon their political opponents. Whether by manipulating threat levels leading up to elections, or by deeming opponents &quot;weak on terror,&quot; they have shown no hesitation whatsoever about using fear to divide. 

But the worst thing about this slogan is that it hasn&#039;t worked. The so-called &quot;war&quot; has created even more terrorism—as we have seen so tragically in Iraq. The State Department itself recently released a study showing that worldwide terrorism has increased 25% in 2006, including a 40% surge in civilian fatalities. 

By framing this as a &quot;war,&quot; we have walked right into the trap that terrorists have set—that we are engaged in some kind of clash of civilizations and a war against Islam. 

The &quot;war&quot; metaphor has also failed because it exaggerates the role of only one instrument of American power—the military. This has occurred in part because the military is so effective at what it does. Yet if you think all you have is a hammer, then every problem looks like a nail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not saying these comments are either good or bad. Just letting you know what Romney is refering to.</p>
<p>Here is the speech and comment by Edwards.<br />
<a href="http://johnedwards.com/news/speeches/20070523-cfr/" rel="nofollow">http://johnedwards.com/news/speeches/20070523-cfr/</a></p>
<p>Pertinent part:<br />
The war on terror is a slogan designed only for politics, not a strategy to make America safe. It&#8217;s a bumper sticker, not a plan. It has damaged our alliances and weakened our standing in the world. As a political &#8220;frame,&#8221; it&#8217;s been used to justify everything from the Iraq War to Guantanamo to illegal spying on the American people. It&#8217;s even been used by this White House as a partisan weapon to bludgeon their political opponents. Whether by manipulating threat levels leading up to elections, or by deeming opponents &#8220;weak on terror,&#8221; they have shown no hesitation whatsoever about using fear to divide. </p>
<p>But the worst thing about this slogan is that it hasn&#8217;t worked. The so-called &#8220;war&#8221; has created even more terrorism—as we have seen so tragically in Iraq. The State Department itself recently released a study showing that worldwide terrorism has increased 25% in 2006, including a 40% surge in civilian fatalities. </p>
<p>By framing this as a &#8220;war,&#8221; we have walked right into the trap that terrorists have set—that we are engaged in some kind of clash of civilizations and a war against Islam. </p>
<p>The &#8220;war&#8221; metaphor has also failed because it exaggerates the role of only one instrument of American power—the military. This has occurred in part because the military is so effective at what it does. Yet if you think all you have is a hammer, then every problem looks like a nail.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dwight</title>
		<link>http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798&#038;cpage=1#comment-12513</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.twoheadedblog.com/?p=798#comment-12513</guid>
		<description>That&#039;s funny, after seeing the footage of him after winning the Iowa Straw Poll, I thought he looked unnaturally orange too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s funny, after seeing the footage of him after winning the Iowa Straw Poll, I thought he looked unnaturally orange too.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
